{"id":13341,"date":"2025-09-09T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-09-09T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mecfs-research.org\/?p=13341"},"modified":"2026-01-21T18:39:33","modified_gmt":"2026-01-21T18:39:33","slug":"news-costreport-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mecfs-research.org\/en\/news-costreport-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Background interview on the study \"The rising cost of Long COVID and ME\/CFS in Germany\""},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><strong><strong>The interview with two modelling experts James Daniell and Johannes Brand from Risklayer provides exciting insights into the joint project work on the recent study on the prevalence and costs of Long COVID and ME\/CFS. They talk about their motivation, the challenges of data and modelling, surprising results, and answer questions from the community.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On 12 May 2025, the joint study by Risklayer and the ME\/CFS Research Foundation was published (<a href=\"https:\/\/mecfs-research.org\/en\/costreport-long-covid-and-mecfs\/\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">link to website<\/span><\/a>). The press has reported extensively on the key findings regarding the prevalence and, above all, the high social costs of both diseases (e.g. in&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.spiegel.de\/gesundheit\/long-covid-und-me-cfs-kosten-die-gesellschaft-jaehrlich-60-milliarden-euro-a-bff6a132-7c21-4203-804a-6eb3ac6159db\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Der Spiegel<\/span><\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.faz.net\/aktuell\/wissen\/folgekosten-der-pandemie-der-lange-arm-des-virus-110472175.html\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung\/FAZ<\/span><\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.stern.de\/gesundheit\/long-covid-und-me-cfs---einige-suchen-freiwillig-den-tod---35714434.html\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Stern<\/span><\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.manager-magazin.de\/hbm\/long-covid-und-me-cfs-kosten-in-milliardenhoehe-in-deutschland-a-0a23154a-eda5-408d-a8e6-6d6c13fd168b\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Manager Magazin<\/span><\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tagesspiegel.de\/gesundheit\/die-60-milliarden-krankheit-warum-es-richtig-ist-die-kosten-von-long-covid-akribisch-vorzurechnen-13677373.html\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Tagesspiegel<\/span><\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.aerzteblatt.de\/news\/medienbericht-long-covid-und-mecfs-kosten-gesellschaft-63-milliarden-euro-jahrlich-ac6ab36c-b2e4-40a1-8f27-6b52d53dd9e8\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Deutsches \u00c4rzteblatt<\/span><\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.fr.de\/panorama\/long-covid-kostet-deutschland-etliche-milliarden-pro-jahr-zr-93725969.html\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Frankfurter Rundschau<\/span><\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.n-tv.de\/wissen\/Long-Covid-und-ME-CFS-kosten-60-Milliarden-Euro-pro-Jahr-article25760208.html\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">N-TV<\/span><\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzz.ch\/wissenschaft\/long-covid-und-chronisches-fatigue-syndrom-verursachen-in-deutschland-kosten-von-mehr-als-63-milliarden-euro-pro-jahr-ld.1883937\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Neue Z\u00fcrcher Zeitung\/NZZ<\/span><\/a>). Many researchers, patient organisations and politicians also took up the findings. Methodologically, the study is based on the modelling of natural disaster costs and was applied in this form for the first time to the follow-up costs of major diseases. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All information and data from the study (German and English):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-content-justification-center is-layout-flex wp-container-core-buttons-is-layout-a89b3969 wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-fill\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/mecfs-research.org\/en\/costreport-long-covid-and-mecfs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Website: \"The rising cost of Long COVID and ME\/CFS in Germany\"<\/strong><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>In the 30-minute interview, the Risklayer experts explain their role in this challenging project and provide in-depth insights into the work of the project team from Germany and Australia. They speak openly about the limitations of the study, how to deal with missing data (e.g. \"unreported cases\"), possible distortions in the model, and why the team decided to estimate the results conservatively, or whether higher prevalence and cost estimates would also be realistic. And, of course, they address the question of how the costs of ME\/CFS and Long COVID compare to natural disasters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Furthermore, the interview illustrates how the Risklayer and ME\/CFS Research Foundation team worked together, what motivated us to do this work, and how we dealt with the challenges of complex issues and limitations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"&quot;The rising costs of Long COVID and ME\/CFS in Germany&quot; \u2013 background interview\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/2s6uslP4sRM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Video chapters:<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Motivation and project background<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Methodology and data (08:05)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Results and interpretation (12:39)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Social and political implications (17:22)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Critical reflection and outlook (19:22)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Questions from the community (from 27:39)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Subtitles available in \ud83c\udde9\ud83c\uddea and \ud83c\uddec\ud83c\udde7 (<a href=\"https:\/\/support.google.com\/youtube\/answer\/100078?hl=en&amp;sjid=12709764095896452043-EU\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">How do I turn on captions in YouTube videos?<\/span><\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">How can you support the work of the ME\/CFS Research Foundation?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>While progress has been made, there is still a long way to go before diagnosis, care and treatment of ME\/CFS patients will one day become an established medical and social standard. We at the ME\/CFS Research Foundation are focussing on biomedical research, which we see as a key element in solving these problems (more on this in <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mecfs-research.org\/en\/fundingstrategy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">our research funding strategy<\/a><\/span> and in the recent <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mecfs-research.org\/en\/reporting\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">half year report<\/a><\/span>, which summarises our activities). To achieve this, we rely on broad support from private donors \u2013 those affected, relatives, families, friends, associations, schools, networks, companies, initiatives, event organisers and all supporters. If you are not able to provide direct support, you can share our stories and motivate others to help. 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